Chapter 10 Text 10
Montreal, Canada 06/05/2005
.. Srivasadi Gaura Bhakta Vrinda
Sri Sri Radha Krishna Gopi Gopinath, Shyam Kund, Radha Kund Giri
Govardhan ki Jai!
Vrindavana Dham ki Jai! Mayapur Dham ki Jai!
Navadvip Dham ki Jai! Jagannatha Puri Dham ki Jai!
ISKCON Montreal ki
the whole world with Krishna prema ki Jai!
Ganga Mayiki Jai! Yamuna Mayiki Jai!
Bhakti Devi ki Jai!
Tulasi Devi ki Jai!
Sama Veda Bhakta Vrinda ki jai!
Gaura Premanande.Hari Haribol!
All glories to the
assembled devotees! Hare Krishna!
saying 3 times)
All glories to Sri
Sri Guru and Gauranga!
All glories to His
Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada!
Srila Prabhupada ki Jai!
So, ladies and
gentlemen, thank you very much for coming today to participate in the
Hare Krishna movement. This movement is the prime benediction for
humanity at large because it is spreading the rays of the benediction
moon of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Today we are going
to study a wonderful verse. Actually it is the most sweet, wonderful
verse in the entire Bhagavad-gita. Chapter No.10, Text No.10.
dadami buddhi-yogam tam
yena mam upayanti te
Lord Sri Krishna,
out of his infinite, sweet kindness is speaking these words to Sri
“To those who are constantly
devoted to serving Me with love, I give the understanding by which they
can come to Me.”
verse the word buddhi-yogam is
very significant. We may remember that in the Second Chapter the Lord,
said that He had spoken to him of many things and that He would instruct
him in the way of buddhi-yoga.
Now buddhi-yoga is
explained. Buddhi-yoga itself
is action in Krishna consciousness;
that is the highest intelligence. Buddhi means
intelligence, and yoga means
mystic activities or mystic elevation. When one tries to go back home,
back to Godhead, and takes fully to
in devotional service, his action is called buddhi yoga.
In other words, buddhi-yoga is
the process by which one gets out of the entanglement of this material
world. The ultimate goal of progress is Krishna.
People do not know this; therefore the association of devotees and a
bona fide spiritual master are important. One should know that the goal
and when the goal is assigned, then the path is slowly but progressively
traversed, and the ultimate goal is achieved.
person knows the goal of life but is addicted to the fruits of
activities, he is acting in karma-yoga.
When he knows that the goal is Krishna but
he takes pleasure in mental speculations to understand Krishna,
he is acting in jnana-yoga.
And when he knows the goal and seeks Krishna completely
in Krishna consciousness
and devotional service, he is acting in bhakti-yoga,
which is the complete yoga.
This complete yoga is
the highest perfectional stage of life.
person may have a bona fide spiritual master and may be attached to a
spiritual organization, but still, if he is not intelligent enough to
make progress, then Krishna
within gives him instructions so that he may ultimately come to Him
without difficulty. The qualification is that a person must always
engage himself in Krishna
consciousness and with love and devotion render all kinds of services.
He should perform some sort of work for Krishna,
and that work should be with love. If a devotee is not intelligent
enough to make progress on the path of self-realization but is sincere
and devoted to the activities of devotional service, the Lord gives him
a chance to make progress and ultimately attain to Him. [End of Purport]
caksur unmilitam yena
tasmai sri-gurave namah
Of course, someone who is not trained in this
science of Krishna consciousness Krishna is saying, “They come to me”,
they’d say, “Why should I even go to Krishna?” That doesn’t attract
them. Krishna says, “To those who are constantly devoted to serving Me
with love, I give the understanding by which they can come to Me.”
“Well, I don’t care. I
don’t want to go to Krishna. Why would I want to go to Krishna? I’d
rather go to a cinema or a tavern or a brothel. Why would I want to go
would be one thing to understand in this verse – “What’s in it for me”
is the standard mentality and actually we all have that in this material
world. “What’s in it for me? What’s the advantage of going to Krishna?”
That’s the first thing, and once we understand the advantage of going to
Krishna, then how to do that going to Krishna.
So the first thing is to
understand that our present situation in this world is we are caught up
in this material existence, this material identity. We are identifying
with the material body, which is asat-acid-nirananda – it is temporary,
full of ignorance, full of misery.
Krishna is in a different position. He is situated
far beyond this material existence. He is sac-cid-ananda – eternal, full
of knowledge and bliss. Because we are qualitatively one with God by our
very nature, because we are emanations from Him, just as a spark of fire
also has heat and light in it although the portion is minute, the
percentage of heat and light is much smaller than the complete fire; but
because we are emanations from God who is eternal, full of bliss and
knowledge, we also have eternity, knowledge and bliss. It’s our
constitutional birth right actually.
So the point is, if we misidentify with the
material body which is temporary, full of ignorance and full of misery -
what are we doing? We are cheating ourselves, big time! Big time
cheating! It’s foolishness, actually its utter foolishness to
misidentify with the material body and be caught up here in this
material existence trying to base our happiness on serving these
temporary limited senses. I can spend my whole life working very hard to
keep this body comfortable and happy. Feed it nicely, give it a bath
every day, decorate it with clothings, so many things I can do, but
what’s the body going to award me with? What’ll be the final conclusion?
If I told you
XYZ Corporation has a fantastic career opportunity, and you dedicate
your whole life working for this company, and it’s great! You get
immediate, instant sense gratification, whatever you wanted. Of course,
the material world doesn’t give us whatever we wanted. Every now and
then we get some, but even if you had it whatever you wanted to live,
what is the end result with XYZ Corporation? Oh! By the way, we have a
special policy that one day we will take you out to the dumpster, and
will put a gun in your head, and shoot you and throw you in the
dumpster. That’s the retirement plan of this company.
So even though they may pay
very nicely, may be all kinds of perks to go with the job, would you
want to work for a company that just surprises you some day? “Ok, it’s
your turn! Come on, out to the dumpster!” Would you want to work for
such a company?
why are you doing it now? That’s the company you are working for right
now! You’re putting all your time, your energy, unless you are Krishna
conscious, but I’m speaking about the general population. If you’re all
pure devotees then I’m not talking about you but if you’re not in the
category where you’re completely self-realized soul and you’re still
caught up in the bodily consciousness then this applies to you too, to a
greater or lesser extent.
So right now, we are in fact doing that. We are
serving this temporary body which is going to reward us at any minute –
today, tomorrow, the next day, next year, we don’t know. It’s going to
award us with death. So we’re really working so hard, with so much
dedication, brushing the teeth, shaving the face, you know, whatever,
all this work to keep the body nicely situated, a decorated apartment
with the family members. We’re working so hard to make such nice
comfortable arrangements when all we’re going to get is death out of it!
This is a realization I
had when I was in college, when I was a kid in college back in the fall
of 1965. I was thinking, “What’s the purpose of all this?” I mean I was
a good student, I was in the honours society, I was a leader, and I had
all kinds of things going for me. I wasn’t a failure materially, but I
was thinking what is the point of struggling, struggling, struggling –
to make the good grades so I get the good job, I get the house, I get
the wife, get the kids. What’s at the end? I get to go to St.
Petersburg, Florida and play shuffle ball with the other senior
citizens, right? Wow, whoopee!
And finally they put me six feet under and every
year I get some flowers on my grave, until they forget about me. I just
didn’t see the purpose of working so hard for that. I said there has to
be something deeper than this, there really has to be.
And, we had one course on the
campus, it was an interesting course. It was an inter-departmental
course held on a big lecture hall. One day every professor from the
History department, the next day the professor from the Literature
department; it was an interesting course. It gave you an overview of
Western civilization from the Philosophy department, the History
department. It was an interesting course and of course the title was
Basic Studies 101 and you know the abbreviation, that’s BS. So we took
BS101, BS102, BS201 and BS202. It really was basic studies there’s no
doubt about it. But anyway, we tried to understand what is this great
Western civilization, what is the great knowledge and wisdom that this
Western civilization is giving us, to understand who we are and what we
can be. There wasn’t anything there! We learnt about the Romans, Marcus,
Aurelius, the Roman historic whose philosophy is, who said to tolerate
the suffering, “Just be tough in the face of the suffering”. But that
didn’t really satisfy me. You just got to toughly, with a stiff upper
lip, just take the suffering.
I mean that wasn’t very good. That didn’t sound
blissful to me. That’s not the kind of life I wanted to live. I wanted
to taste the nectar. I wanted to be enlivened at every minute and happy
and joyful and celebrating life at every minute.
So, it wasn’t there. The
Western civilization didn’t have that and by God’s grace, gradually,
gradually, gradually, through a sincere desire to find out what is the
actual way to be happy, I came to the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada.
So Prabhupada is
actually giving us this system, the bhakti yoga system which is
described here in a nut-shell by Sri Krishna, and it is simply a matter
of doing everything in a mood of devotion to Krishna. “Serving Me with
love” is the statement here. So, we have to actually serve Krishna, not
be grudgingly that, “Oh, I don’t want to do this, but I’ll do it because
I have to”. No. We have to be enthusiastic. “I want to chant Krishna’s
Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare.
I want to clean His temple.
I want to have the Rathayatra to be glorious because this is a wonderful
opportunity to show Krishna how much I love Him! He can be glorified in
front of thousands of people in Montreal.”
The idea is to get in this
mood of being always engaged in serving Krishna with love, in everything
that you’re doing. Whether you are living in the ashram or you’re living
at home, whether you’re going to school or whether you’re working a job,
raising a family, under the guidance of the senior devotees and the
spiritual master, learn the art of how to do absolutely everything, 24
hours a day, in devotion to Krishna, with a loving spirit and what is
the result? What is the pay-off of doing that?
The result is that from within your heart, Krishna
will actually give you the guidance and the understanding of how at
every step you can proceed closer and closer and closer to Him. You may
say, “But it’s so far to Goloka Vrindavana”. Step by step, I mean it
going to take a long time to get there. But for every step you take
towards Krishna, He takes ten steps towards you! So you can actually
finish it up very quickly if you devote this one lifetime to Krishna.
Just consider the math! You put $10 in, you get a hundred back. When you
put that 100 in, you get a 1000 back. When you put a 1000 in, you get
10,000 back. You put 10,000 in, you get 100,000 back, and 100,000 in,
you get a 1,000,000 back; so actually very quickly, if you can get a ten
time return on investment and then reinvest the money earned in new
investment, very quickly you can become the wealthiest person in the
whole world! Isn’t it, mathematically? If you could do that you would
easily put Bill Gates in the Poverty house! (Devotees chuckle)
So Krishna is willing
to give us that kind of return on our energy spent in serving Him. So
who is that fool who will not give their whole life to Krishna? Sorry,
but we have to tell the truth here. I’m sitting on the Vyasasana I have
to speak the truth. Anyone who will not give their life to Krishna, he
is a fool. Fool number one. Because by giving your life to Krishna, you
reap unlimited rewards very quickly. It doesn’t take long if you really
take it up very seriously.
There was one king, actually, during the old days
in India, very powerful king. You can imagine. Actually in those days
‘king’ meant king. Not these so-called kings in Kali-Yuga. This king was
powerful, Khatvanga Maharaja. He was so powerful that when the demons
were attacking the demigods in the heavenly kingdom, the demigods asked
Khatvanga to come to the heavenly planets to fight of the demons. He was
such a powerful, earthly king you can imagine. The demigods asked his
help! He was so powerful. So for long, long years he battled against the
demons and he actually defeated them; and the demigods were so pleased
that he’d saved their heavenly kingdom from the onslaught of the demons,
the terrorists. They said to him, “Whatever boon you want we’ll give
you. You just tell us what you want”. He was very intelligent king.
In those days kings
were not only raja they were rishi also. They were raja
and rishi - rajarishi. They were called rajarishi
because they were raja and rishi, both at the same time. They
were saintly and they were powerful kings same time. They had saintly
quality and they were powerful ruler also. So he knew that, “I shouldn’t
just try to enjoy this material existence. If I’m getting a boon from
the powerful demigods, I should ask something very intelligent, very
wise.” So he said this, “How long will I live? That’s all I want to
know. Just give me that information. How long am I going to live?” The
demigods have great wisdom of past, present and future and they can
perceive his death was coming very shortly. They said, “You’re dying in
a minute”. He said, “Thank you very much”. He took complete shelter of
Krishna and immediately achieved pure devotional service.
So we don’t know when we will
leave these bodies. But we can know for sure and certain that it will
come today, tomorrow, the next day, or the day after that. It’s coming
for each and every one of us. We are all going to leave. The countdown
is going on. Just consider a countdown that’s going 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5,
4, 3, 2, 1 and when you hit 0, then you leave the body. So, each one of
you has a countdown that’s going on right now. We just don’t know what
number it’s at. That’s all. Every one of us has a countdown going on
right now. It could be nine million, nine hundred and ninety-nine. You
know what I mean, every one of us has a countdown happening, clicking
away towards leaving the body.
So we should prepare ourselves since we don’t know
when it’s coming. We should just prepare ourselves right now by putting
our self in this mood of pure devotional service because that will,
absolutely free us from all anxiety.
Right now we are deriving our happiness from
material sense enjoyment but that’ puts us automatically in a position
of anxiety because at the time of death that sense enjoyment will be
taken away from us. Therefore instead of hanging on to sense enjoyment,
we should hang on to our eternal relationship with God. That
relationship is completely beyond whatever is happening in this material
world. If we would just hold tightly on to our relationship with Krishna
or God, and learn how to derive unlimited happiness from that
relationship, then we become completely impervious to whatever may
happen in this material existence. There can be good things happening,
there can be bad things happening; it won’t matter. For such a person
actually, everything becomes good, because they see everything in
relationship with God.
So inviting you all, if you would like to really
taste the nectar, if you’d really like to be ecstatic at every moment
and that every moment is a festive celebration. From the moment you wake
up in the morning to the moment you take rest at night, you’re
absolutely ecstatic, 24 hours a day.
If you’d like to have a life like that, we can
teach you how to have that. That life is available to anyone. It doesn’t
matter if you’re living in an ashram or if you’re working in a
corporation or if you have your own business – in any position, you can
be absolutely ecstatic in the bliss of pure Krishna bhakti. You simply
have to take the training from the devotees and from the spiritual
master and from Prabhupada’s wonderful books; and then you’d actually be
able to relish the sweetest nectar at every minute. Every minute would
be delicious. Every moment of your life would be like eating the most
relish able dinner. Every bite becomes more and more delicious, it never
gets filled up; it just keeps getting more and more delicious.
consciousness is nutritious, delicious and auspicious. It nourishes the
soul, it’s ecstatic, and any person who’s engaged in Krishna
consciousness, they create an auspicious atmosphere wherever they go.
Wherever there is a person who’s purely absorbed in devotional service,
wherever he sets foot, that place is transformed into Goloka Vrindavana,
the spiritual world because he carries Krishna within his heart fully
manifest at every minute.
So we saw such a personality His Divine Grace A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, and we can take shelter of these
wonderful teachings that Prabhupada is giving to us. Accept him as our
teacher, as our guru, our mentor. If we can take these teachings of
Srila Prabhupada and if we can follow them very, very seriously, then I
can guarantee you that we’ll be swimming in the sweetest ocean of nectar
at every minute. We’ll be surfing on the waves of love of God. If we
carefully catch that ultimate wave and ride it all the way back to
Goloka Vrindavana hanging tandem - supreme wave of Krishna
invite you all, do not suffer any more in this material existence. Give
your life now to Lord Sri Krishna under the guidance of the bona fide
spiritual master. Don’t punish yourself any more by not surrendering.
You’re only torturing yourself by not surrendering to Krishna. Surrender
yourself fully to Krishna, under the guidance of Guru and Vaishnavas
and we can completely guarantee that you’ll be the happiest person you
could ever imagine you could be, even beyond your wildest imagination.
And, we’re giving you a guarantee that if you sincerely try this
process, to follow all the instructions of Guru and Vaishnavas
for at least six months, and you don’t find you are the happiest person
that you could ever imagine you could be, we’ll give you $10,000 cash!
Guarantee. We pack this up with a $10,000 guarantee, that if you will
give this process full sincerity, follow everything that we told you to
do, exactly how to live your life, for six months, and you don’t find
that you are the happiest person you could ever imagine you could be,
$10,000 richer you will be! So you can’t lose - you become supremely
happy or you become $10,000 richer! Either way you have a big grin on
consciousness is the supreme happiness. Otherwise I’d be broke, because
I promise this wherever I go, I’m travelling all over the world and I
always promise this. I haven’t had to pay the $10,000 even once yet! If
this process was bogus, they would have to arrest me and put me in
prison. I’d be absolutely broke. But the fact is I’ve never had to pay
the $10,000 once. And the fact is that anybody who ever takes these
instructions that we’re giving, they become more opulent, more
successful than even Bill Gates.
So if you want to become the most opulent, the
most successful person beyond any big materialistic person – the
President of United States, the Prime Minister of Canada, big wealthy,
any big people who are successful in this world; If you seriously
practice Krishna consciousness, you will become millions of times more
successful than the biggest names in the newspapers. I guarantee you for
$10,000, it will be yours.
We can open it up now perhaps some of you have
question. Anyone have question?Yeah, he has question.
Devotee: Since I’ve been
taking Krishna consciousness, my life has become happier and happier,
more and more. But I know there’s like much more happiness to come in
future practice but how to become patient?
SDA: Ah! How do you patiently
await the days when pure Krishna bhakti arises in your heart? Well, you
should try to speed up the process! (Devotees chuckle)
One thing is, if you can
seriously follow our process of chanting sixteen rounds, following the
four regulative principles and taking initiation from a bona fide
spiritual master, that diksa will greatly empower your progress
on the pathway of spiritual perfection. To be initiated by a bona fide
spiritual master gives you a very, very powerful connection with the
process of Krishna consciousness, because now you’re directly under the
protection and blessings and inspiration of a person who is highly
advanced in the science of Krishna bhakti.
In fact it’s stated in the
prayers of Visvanath Cakravarti Thakura, that by the mercy of the
spiritual master, one receives the benediction of Krishna. So you have
to find a bona fide spiritual master and fully surrender at his lotus
feet; and by doing that, then Krishna will just flood you with special
blessings. That’s very important.
Become fixed in the process, take shelter of bona
fide spiritual master and by his blessings you’ll quickly make progress
on the pathway back to Godhead.
Devotee: Thank you.
SDA: Hare Krishna! Any other question? I guess
everybody else is already self-realized, ah! Or they’ve overcome all
You said that Krishna consciousness is a very simple process.
SDA: So, what’s the
question? How do you become simple? Krishna consciousness is simple for
the simple and difficult for the crooked. And that is also confirmed in
the Srimad Bhagavatam, ahaituki apratihata yayatma
suprasidati - That devotional service when it is not done out of
any motive becomes uninterrupted nectar. The key is - Don’t have any
ulterior motive for serving Krishna. That’s the key. Being simple means
you don’t have anything up your sleeve.
“Well, I want to flatter Krishna and get his favor
so I can get something for my sense gratification out of Him”. That
means you’re crooked. You may get that material desire fulfilled, but
you won’t get Krishna. So the key is you have to take up the mood of
completely giving yourself to Krishna. That’s simplicity. You bow down
to the feet of Guru and Krishna, “I simply belong to you”. That’s all
finished. “Do with me as you like”
What did Prabhupada say in his arrival prayer? He
said, “Now You’ve brought me here to this place. Now You make me dance,
make me dance, make me dance as You like”. He told Krishna when he
arrived in the United States.
So we have to have that mood that “I’m just fully
surrendering myself to Krishna and to my Guru Maharaja and they can just
make me dance in any way they want. I’m simply under their direction.
That is called simple. You have no ulterior motive, no agenda of your
own. You say, “My dear Guru Maharaja, my dear Krishna, what is Your
agenda? Engage me in Your agenda.” Not that I have my agenda to be
fulfilled. You give up your agenda. Just take whatever agenda Guru and
Krishna have for you and surrender to that. That is called simple, and
that’ll capture Krishna. You’ll capture Krishna by that complete total
is called ajita, He cannot be conquered. But, if you become a
simple devotee like that, then for you, Krishna will become jita. He’ll
be conquered by you.
So just imagine if that Person who controls and
owns absolutely everything is under your control! How you can ever have
any problems, any difficulties? That Person who owns and controls
everything is your personal property. There’s no difficulty in your
life, impossible there can be no difficulty.
So become simple devotee.
Without any ulterior motive, just submit yourself completely to Krishna.
“My dear Lord, I’m not coming to you with any motive. I just want to
please you by my every thought, my every word, and my every deed”.
Krishna will then shower unlimited blessings on you. You’ll be the
happiest person in the universe if you do that.
Oh, I have one policy, and
that is if you don’t ask me a question, I will ask you a question. I
will pick one of you and interrogate you in front of everyone. So it’s
easier to ask me a question!
Devotee: When you say these words you’re very
convinced. How do you get that conviction?
SDA: How am I so convinced
that this is true?
Well, one reason I’m convinced is that it is true. If this wasn’t true,
why would I be saying it? I’m not being paid to sit here. My only pay is
the satisfaction of speaking the truth. I’m not getting anything
material out of doing this. If this weren’t true, I wouldn’t waste my
time speaking it. I’m a lover of truth.
I’ll tell you frankly, if anybody here in this
room can show me a higher truth than Krishna consciousness, I’ll become
their disciple, right now. I’ll give up Krishna consciousness in a
second. If you can prove me that there is something higher than Krishna
consciousness, I’ll become your disciple. In my experience, I can make
you this challenge, along with the $10,000 offer; I’ve been making this
challenge for many, many years and no one has even tried to show me
something, higher truth than Krishna consciousness, when I made this
challenge. No one has even tried. Everyone has just been silent. I’ve
been saying this for decades.
So if anybody out there has anything higher, let
me know. But so far my experience goes, there is no higher truth and
Krishna happens to agree with me. He says, raja vidya raja guhyam,
“This is the highest truth”. So it’s my practical experience that
there’s no higher truth, and Krishna confirms it in the Bhagavad-gita. “There is no higher truth than this.” So if you can convince
me there’s a higher truth then I will give up my conviction but until
that time I remain firm in this conviction, because, there’s a very
simple two-words slogan that can help you understand this “Truth works”!
If something is true, it’s practical, it’s effective. I can guarantee
you this Krishna consciousness process works.
I was such a miserable person,
even though I was successful materially, in many ways. I had many, many
varieties of material success which I don’t need to go into. But in
spite of it, there was emptiness. I was looking to find that which could
bring real meaning, purpose, satisfaction and I searched for years and
years. I went to this guru, that guru, this swami, this yogi, this
preacher, this place, this author, this philosopher and I looked
everywhere and I finally reached Krishna, and Krishna made it very clear
to me that he is indeed the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and that
Srila Prabhupada is indeed His foremost disciple.
So we took advantage of what
Krishna revealed to us and we dedicated our self to it. Now we want to
share this with you. I may die today or tomorrow. The whole world right
now is suffering from a lack of Krishna consciousness. So I’ve dedicated
my life. I don’t do anything else. Even though I have a wife, and she is
here somewhere, Vishnu Priya Devi Dasi, my better half; we travel
constantly all over the world. Just we are missionaries. We just travel
and give this knowledge. We were in Helsinki, Finland, we were in
Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia; we went down to Istanbul. They may be
showing a video tonight on how we engaged Muslim people in chanting Hare
Krishna. After prasadam they may be showing that. There’s a
rumor that there might be a show tonight if there’s a popular demand.
So we just travel to
give this knowledge because we know that our lives are limited. We’re in
our fifties now and the time clock is ticking. While we still have some
energy, while we still have the brains to be able to communicate
intelligently with people, while we have the speaking power, dedicating
every single ounce of our energy to spreading this knowledge with
everybody throughout the world, because the whole world is suffering
right now because of the lack of Krishna consciousness. That’s a fact,
whole world is suffering.
Krishna consciousness can solve every single
problem of this entire planet. So we are dedicating ourselves to do
everything we can to spread this knowledge to everybody throughout the
world. And, Krishna is making it very clear to me that this indeed is
the absolute truth. Krishna is making it very, very clear to me and
therefore I’m absolutely convinced. It’s so proven otherwise. But no one
is even coming forward. What can I say? Take Krishna consciousness. This
is the Absolute Truth.
Devotee: As a grihastha, home
installation of Deity and without installation of Deity - What’s the
What’s he saying?
Another devotee: Worshipping at home with a Deity uninstalled.
SDA: Well, actually the
Deity worship is secondary in Kali-Yuga. The primary worship is,
harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam
kalau nasty eva
nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha
So if that is going on strong, that is actually
sufficient for liberation. But, Deity worship will help us; therefore it
is accepted and recommended. It will help us to become clean, pure,
regulated and it’ll help us to chant the Holy names very nicely because
we can chant for the pleasure of the Deities.
We all know kirtan in front of the
Deities increases its potency. So, the Deity worship is actually there
to increase the potency of the kirtan. That’s how we worship
Deities. So even a photograph, one can do.
If one wants to have install Deities in the home
then you must have the same standard here. Of course, Gaura Nitai is one
thing, but if you have Radha Krishna Deities installed in your home,
then you can never stop the worship. I mean, you have to think twice if
you want to travel somewhere and you have Radha Krishna Deities. You
have to take your Deities with you and worship Them, three offerings a
day, at least.
So if you
want to worship Deities and install them, then you have to very
seriously consider that you have to worship Them to the same standard as
They are being worshipped here. Every day you’re dressing Them, and
bathing Them. Every day you’re cooking at least three offerings for Them
a day, and you have to really be dedicated. That is actually the
standard in Vedic culture, and the householders do keep Deities.
If you’re going to do it, you have to do it
seriously; don’t make a farce out of it. That’s what Prabhupada
mentioned in his teachings, “If you cannot worship to the standard of
the temples, then you should come here and participate in this Deity
SDA: You had
Devotee: Is there some philosophical difference between the temple Deity
and the home Deity that is not installed?
SDA: It’s really up to the purity of your own
consciousness. If you’re a pure devotee of Krishna, you will see Krishna
anywhere and everywhere. It’s not some mechanical, awkward thing. It’s a
matter of your own spiritual advancement. If you’re in the highest love
of Krishna prema, your home Deity will be just as potent as the temple
Deity, if your consciousness comes to that level, because Krishna is
omnipresent actually. He is present within every atom, in between every
atom. So if you have the pure vision, then you’ll have the equal vision
of Krishna here or there. It’s the same thing.
But the advantage of temple is it forces us to
become selfless, which we need. Home Deity, whatever I’m feeding to Him
is to feed my family ultimately. When we come here, we give offering but
we may not get anything for our self out of it. So the temple Deity is
very valuable because here it’s easier to be selfless.
You may cook an offering for
the Deities and not even be able to honour one morsel of it. But at
home, you make a nice offering; you’ll have a nice dinner after the
offering. You feed the Deity and then you feed yourself. But here, you
may make a nice offering and not even get to taste it. It may go
somewhere else, because it belongs to Krishna, and you’re just the
So the temple
is very valuable because it forces you even more than worshipping at
home to become selfless. That’s the advantage of temple worship. And the
temple also is meant to be a place to establish the standard and what is
the proper thing. So when you worship at home, you will know what you’re
supposed to do, how clean you must be, how regulated you must be, how to
dress when you’re doing the puja, etc. So the temple is the place of
training. So the householders, when they worship in their home, they
will know how to properly do, not some concocted thing, you know, in the
closet between the hangers.
If you really want to worship Krishna at the home,
you have to make a whole nice room for Krishna; how we saw one family,
they took the living room and made it into the temple. So if you want to
worship Krishna at home, do it very, very nicely. First class, and then
have regular kirtan programs. Invite the devotees to come to your home.
In this way, it becomes a very glorious thing – worshipping at home,
because actually we want to establish that example that every home
should be a temple in the whole world. Every home should be a temple of
Krishna. So if you can make your home into a nice temple, that’s very
Devotee: But it
should not come at the cost of like, “Ok, now I have Deities at home, so
I ignore temple”.
We have to remember the preaching mission of Srila Prabhupada, because
the whole world is suffering. If we just think, “I have got my own
little home temple now, so forget about it, I just kiss ISKCON Good bye,
Hari Hari bol! I’m just going to sit here”, then you’re actually
neglecting the order of Srila Prabhupada.
We are meant to work together as a worldwide
spiritual family to relieve the whole world from suffering. So this is
very good. I’m very happy you brought this point. Just as I mentioned
earlier, serving your own temple, your own Deities, it’s not as easy to
give up selfishness also. We need to come together where we can
here, there are the pledges for the Rathayatra. I was surprised that the
numbers were not very high. Why only 108? Everyone can give more than
108. Why everyone is not giving 508? There should be increase. Why only
108? 108 is nothing. At least 508 everyone should be giving. Everyone
should be giving five times and say, “Ok, I give an extra 400 now”.
Everyone should step forward and increase because this is how we become
selfless; this is how we purify our hearts, by making sacrifice for
Just figure out
how you can be a little austere right now, for the pleasure of
Jagannatha in your home life. How you can cut back a little bit in your
household and give $500 donation for Rathayatra. So the temple helps us
in this way to become more selfless and make actual sacrifice of our
personal comforts for the pleasure of Krishna.
I looked at it, “What is this? They’re giving only
108? What’s the problem? Everyone has lot more than that. We are not
paupers here. Everyone can easily give 508 if they make a little
sacrifice for Krishna”. At least 90% can do that. So in this way the
temple is a very good place to help us become selfless. Sacrifice some
of our own sense enjoyment so Krishna can be more glorified and
thousands of people can see Lord Jagannatha in His full splendor in a
wonderful, beautiful festival that will purify the whole North American
Montreal is a very strategic place. This is where Krishna consciousness
was first introduced to the West. This is the first place where Krishna
consciousness entered the Western world. So you must have the most
glorious Rathayatra here in Montreal. The most glorious Rathayatra!
So yes, the temple worship we do to purify
ourselves when we are at home. Because you’re living at home, you want
to have a very pure atmosphere, and then take that purity that you’ve
gotten it, that enthusiasm and bring it to the temple and share it with
everyone, that enthusiasms for devotional service bring it to the
temple, chant with enthusiasm and show, “Yes! I’m giving a $1000 for the
way, use the enthusiasm for worshipping at home to come and make the
temple even more glorious not that, “Oh! now I have my own Deities, so
forget the temple”. Then it’s greediness in the name of Krishna bhakti,
You were just mentioning actually that one should not have any exterior
motives to be like purified and that’s the only way we can attain
Krishna. But like for example Dhruva Maharaja, when he was worshipping
Krishna because he wanted the higher and bigger kingdom, but when he met
Krishna by seeing Him, he got purified and he did not want it.
SDA: So what’s the question?
Devotee: Question is like that, he too had
exterior motive before. But sometime people ask this question that how
Dhruva Maharaja had that exterior motive.
SDA: So what’s the question then?
Devotee: How come he has that exterior motive and
he can still attain Krishna?
SDA: Well, he did not attain Krishna until he gave
up that ulterior motive. That does happen sometimes.
There’s also a thief, you know that thief?
Prabhupada gives the story of that thief. There was one thief. He just
happened to wander by a Bhagavat discourse, and the Bhagavat preacher
was saying that, “Krishna, He is decorated; He is laden with beautiful,
costly jewels and He lives in Vrindavana forests”.
So, this thief, he said, “Oh! There’s a little
boy? He is loaded with valuable jewels and He just wanders around the
forests of Vrindavana? Where is this Vrindavana?” he said.
“Well, It’s just part of India”, he said, “I’m
So the thief
headed out to Vrindavana, “Where is this little boy who’s loaded with
jewels?” So he wandered for many, many days and he finally got to
Vrindavana. He’s wandering around all over the forest in Vrindavana.
“Where is Krishna, where is Krishna, where is Krishna, where is Krishna?
I can steal his jewels! Where is He, Where is He, Where is He?”
He became so intense, even
though he had a material desire to steal Krishna’s jewels, he became so
intense! “Where is Krishna, Where is Krishna, Where is Krishna?”, that,
Prabhupada explains, Krishna actually appeared to him and nobody said
when Krishna came. He said, “Krishna, can I have some of Your jewels?”
He said, “Krishna, You’re so nicely decorated with
all these jewels. Can I have some?” and so Krishna said, “No, no, no!
Mother Yasoda will scold me! I cannot give, I cannot give! I will be
chastised by Mother Yasoda. No, I cannot give!” He was pleading, “Oh
Krishna, You please give me” and actually he got purified by that
association with Krishna. He became a pure devotee and then Krishna
said, “Alright, you can take it”.
So, even if you have material desire, if you
approach Krishna with great intensity, then you’ll forget that material
desire, because intensely approaching Krishna becomes so sweet and so
relish able that that just the intensity of approaching Krishna becomes
more wonderful than anything you could have in this material world! So
even if you want something material, you should become completely
dedicated to Krishna to get that material desire fulfilled and if you
become very, very, very intense like the thief, like Dhruva, to get that
material desire fulfilled, after sometime just your intense absorption
in Krishna will become more pleasurable than that thing you were after,
and you’ll forget that thing you were after! As Dhruva said, “I was
searching for a broken piece of glass but now I’ve attained the rarest
So whether you
want to merge into Brahman, or whether you want to have all material
desires fulfilled or you want bhakti, Bhagavatam says you should
approach Krishna. But you have to do it with great intensity, like the
thief or like the Dhruva. Otherwise you won’t taste the nectar of
Krishna consciousness. Don’t do it haphazardly. If you want to approach
Krishna like that, then do that with great intensity, and you’ll realize
this approaching Krishna is more ecstatic than the thing I was after. So
I’ll forget that what I was after.
Devotee: Kamsa was also like “Where’s Krishna,
where’s Krishna” but His intensity became so strong that..
SDA: Yes, but he wanted to kill Krishna - Kamsa!
Devotee: But he was thinking so much of Krishna.
SDA: Yes, that’s also there. That’s another way to
get liberated. You can become an enemy of Krishna, and Krishna will kill
you and then you get liberation! But, if you want to do that, you have
to become very, very big enemy of Krishna. You can’t be a small timer.
So if you’re not able to be as big an enemy as Ravana or Kamsa, then
just become a pure devotee of Krishna. That’s the best program.
So we thank you all very much.
Srila Prabhupada ki Jai! Hare Krishna!
Transcribed by Bhaktin Divyapriya
Revision by Prema Bhakti dasa